The 25th presidential debate took place at Messiah College, ‘The Compassion Forum’. Dr. Joel Hunter a Sr. Pastor with 12,000 members asked Hillary Clinton about the upcoming social issues, that she may soon face if elected president. Those being the Darfur Crisis, Aids, Abortion, Torture – Life and Death issues.
“What are the first principles you’ll fall back on to make such decisions, are there certain activities or references or people with whom you will consult in order to do what is morally right?” Oh, what a crock! Although I could tell the Sr. Pastor was impressed with himself in his tone, the pace, his annunciation, his articulation and the delivery of it. Yep, I’d have to say that he felt honorable to stand up in this public forum – where we should for some strange an odd reason be discussing/debating politics. It was his moment to hopefully leave there knowingly that he had just added 12,000 more members to his congregation. And, it was his opportunity to make history by saying to hell with the United States Constitution and that little thing called the First Amendment – separation between church and state. Let me say though, No Harm No Foul to the good pastor.
Hillary never answered the question regarding the exact ‘principles’ that she would follow. She began her response in the same approach & prelude as Dr. Hunter. It was as if it had been scripted and rehearsed between the two. I felt like I was watching ‘Who wants to be a Soap Star?’ Her gentle calming tone. [Clinton is like a bulldog]. HRC admitted those issues are challenging and daunting, she’ll surround herself around others so that she may be exposed to different points of views & opinions. It was a long drawn out blah blah blah.
One of the most profound things Hillary Clinton stated at the onset about the principles, that she would follow, “I do have a sense of the process which I will try to approach them.” Okay, you’ve got a sense of it without any exact or precise ‘principles’ that you can cite at this time. Oh, that’s scarey. Because, she’s going to pull from the root, the core of her prayers – Ouch! Hillary was a praying woman when she casted her vote for the war. Morally right? Rooted in prayer? An, answer from the scripture? Next – enough said. Religion has no place in politics.
“If one of your daughters asked you – Daddy did God really create the world in six days what would you say?” This was a question directed at Senator Barack Obama by Campbell Brown. I would have loved to have heard the senator respond by saying, “What are you talking about we’re atheists.”
He proceeded to explain the answer, that he would share with them and of course it didn’t take on a life quite the way I would have preferred it. Instead, his response was that God created the universe and the 6 days may not be in the space of time as we would know it to be. It may not be in 24 hour days. Also, instead of discussing the 80,000 jobs we have just lost I was fortunate enough to learn that he believes in evolution. Well, that’s a beautiful thing but I’m more concerned with the families in my city who are holding down 2 and 3 jobs just to feed their children. Evolution – God created the universe in 6 days – no place in politics – separation of church and state.
However, the senator was asked a question that clearly states that we’re in disagreence over this matter.
“Americans believe religion have far too much influence in politics, what do you say to that?”
He acknowledged that some believe such as I that there should be no discussion of religion in politics, because it’s a violation of church and state, then on the other side of the spectrum are those who believe separation of church of state shouldn’t exist, period. Senator Obama believes both extremes are wrong. Everyone should be able to come to the public square with their faith and religious beliefs, but it needs to be translated in an universal language. He states all great leaders were able to do this. You can’t come with the attitude that you’ve got the direct line to God, basically that your religion & faith is the right one and all others are wrong.
This was one of the most profound did you hear him people, that he said:
“We are just not a Christian Nation. We’re a Jewish Nation, We’re a Buddhist Nation, We’re a Muslim Nation, a Hindu Nation, We’re a Nation of Atheists – Nonbelievers.”
And, it was well received with great applaud.